What does it mean when you hear "Illegal"?

It has come to my attention that some of my neighbors are employing the day workers from the corner of Murrieta Road and Scott Road to do wo...

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It has come to my attention that some of my neighbors are employing the day workers from the corner of Murrieta Road and Scott Road to do work around their homes. Upon further discussion with my neighbors, it has become apparent that they are aware that many of these workers are undocumented and illegal aliens.

What does it mean to you when you hear "Illegal"?

To me, it means, "against the law". The individuals are here illegally, and are committing a crime by just being in this country. Employing them is another crime, and only condones and perpetuates this criminal behavior. Yet, it exists. Under our very noses, and we, as law-abiding citizens, turn away and pretend that we don't know our neighbors are committing a crime.

If your child came home with stolen property, would you allow them to keep it? Would you proudly display it in your front yard? I would think not; but many of you will employ an "illegal worker" to install your sprinkler system in your front yard.

Don't get me wrong. I am not lumping all people of any one race together. I am talking about the individuals who are here illegally being knowingly hired for work.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone, at least for the citizens of this country, if we paid a few dollars more and hired a legitimate citizen, or even, a licensed contractor? It would certainly help to stimulate our failing economy!

Remember, these individuals drain our State's resources dramatically. By providing them unreported employment income, you are enabling them to stay in this country longer to drain our ever diminishing resources. They don't pay taxes, at least Income taxes, as many of them like to argue, but never fail to know where to get a free handout from the State!

The next time you need the assistance of a police officer, think about how hard they work for all of us, and if you are helping to perpetuate a law-abiding society, or a law-breaking one, as well as thinking about whether this officer's pay was helped or harmed by the last person you hired.

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  1. we went by there about a day ago and the Menifee police plus several code enforcement officers were there. I agree with you..I have no problem with legal emigrants, we all came from somewhere else in our past.

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  2. Okay agree! Where do you find someone who does a great job. I have asked my neibors and they seem to have hired non-americans. Yikes,
    Trying to do the right thing.

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  3. We do not hire them. But when we when hired a "licensed contractor" who was an American citizen they had illegals doing the work! 500 went to the contractor and 150 went to the laborer who actually broke a sweat. I do not respect Americans that use illegals that way. Some people just do not want to work hard.

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  4. Ahhh, and there is the problem. Many illegals do the work "Real Americans" don't want to do.

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  5. Ms. Tina, Your Real Americans rather be on unemployment than get their hands dirty installing sprinklers! These poor "Illegals" come hear to try and earn a few bucks to feed their families. Don't you have anything better to do with yourself, than discriminate against others? Have a heart and get a life you racist .....!

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  6. This is simple and if I were president for just one day the first thing I would do is DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS. This would solve about 80 to 90 percent of all the unemployement throughout the United States. It would also reduce the crime by over 60 percent.
    These are all valid numbers and the statistics speak for themselves.
    I am not being racist, I am being a realist.

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  7. Most of these comments and this article are all so short-sighted and point out the true problems with Menifee. Do you not think these 'illegal' workers would love to be legal citizens? Most of them would happily pay taxes if they could because that would give them status and security in the country. Have you ever lived in a place where you couldn't feed your children? Wouldn't you do all that you could to support them? And may I remind you, that unless you can boast Native American heritage, every single person in this country is an 'immigrant'. You just had the good fortune to have relatives that decided to make life better for their children earlier on when legislation in the US wasn't based on exclusion.

    And which one of you self-righteous Americans wants to go out and do manual labor of this kind? Deporting all illegal immigrants would be an absolute disaster. For one, the price would be astronomical and because you would be getting rid of a group of people willing to do menial jobs for not very much money, prices of American grown fruit and vegetables would sky rocket.

    The world would be a much nicer place if you would just have a little empathy for other groups of people...

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  8. As a retired 25 year veteran of Federal law enforcement, I find some of the comments on this topic interesting and egregious at the same time.
    First I encourage the poster calling people racist to look up the true definition of the word. It is being misused here. If you choose not to hire someone based on their illegal immigration status, you are not a racist. You are simply following the law. I encourage the same poster to look at an I9 form available from any employer in the United States. There you will find the laws pertaining to the hiring of individuals in this country.
    Secondly, this state among others holds amnesty days for individuals wishing to become documented. Is it an easy process? Not at all. Have thousands applied and become documented? Yes!
    My immigrant family came to this country many years ago. My great grandparents did not speak English, but had the desire to become American citizens. They did so legally, learned the language and help to build this great country. I am a product of this process and it ultimely inspired me to go into law enforcement. I did not read anywhere in the original post that undocumented individuals were either good or bad people, just that hiring them is illegal. That my friends is true. Whether it affects our economy one way or the other or there would be no one else to do "menial" labor, the fact of the matter is they are not here legally and hiring such individuals is a felony and Federal crime. The law is very specific and even providing food, shelter or transportation is a Federal crime. It falls under aiding and abetting.
    If you doubt the veracity of my comments, I encourage you to stop one of our new Menifee Police Officers and ask for they're opinion on the matter. Better yet, next time you are traveling to or from San Diego, stop by the Border Patrol check point and argue the point with them. Cheers!

    Jack Ferguson
    U.S. Marshals Service, RET.

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  9. ... Wouldn't it be better for everyone, at least for the citizens of this country, if we paid a few dollars more and hired a legitimate citizen, or even, a licensed contractor? It would certainly help to stimulate our failing economy!

    Remember, these individuals drain our State's resources dramatically. By providing them unreported employment income, you are enabling them to stay in this country longer to drain our ever diminishing resources. ...


    Most people care more about draining their personal bank accounts than doing what’s best for the state. Sorry, but it’s human nature. If a laborer who does equal work can be hired at a lower cost, people are going to do so unless a penalty exists.

    The ready and open availability of illegal labor and the fact that their employers aren’t sitting in jails tells me we aren’t really serious about enforcing the rules.

    Corporations have the luxury of moving operations out of the state/country to where the same jobs can be done at lower wages. People who live here have simply found a way to achieve a similar benefit.

    The income tax thing is not really a big issue. Their meager annual income is not likely to even reach the lowest rung of the ladder that would trigger taxation.

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  10. All right. I agree. Let's do it. Let's get rid of all illegals in order to save moeny. Let's do it right now. Let's not waste anymore time about it. Ok, first things first. We'll have to FIND all of the illegals. Hmm, that might be difficult but if we hired more police and put them in charge of nothing else, they could probably round them all up. Everybody knows where every illegal is, right? What? What is that? THERE MIGHT BE AS MANY AS 12 MILLION OF THEM? Dear God! That will cost a pretty penny! If it comes out that hunting illegals costs more than a few bucks per success story, that could be millions and millions of dollars spent on hunting them down. Oh well, no matter. The illegals must be kicked out. OK, we have rounded them all up. We've got 12 million illegals sitting in holding pens all over the United States. Damn, we need to build some more holding pens because we don't have a jail large enough to hold an extra 12 million people. Hmm, how do we get them back to their country? Fly them? Yeah, 12 million coach tickets would be a nice use of tax-payer dollars. Drive them? Sure, with gas at over $2.00 a gallon that would be very cost efficient. You could probably safely get 10 illegals into a van so you would only need to use 1.2 million vans to get them back where they came from. Not to mention the salaries of the illegal alien hunters, the detention camp guards, and the 1.2 million van drivers. But, after spending 100's of millions of dollars, we have them all kicked out. Well, we gotta keep them out. A wall! A border wall is the answer! Hmm, it's gotta be tall so they can't climb over it. It's also gotta be thick so they can't drill through it. Don't forget to make it deep in the Earth so they cannot tunnel under it. So how much would it cost to pay tens of thousands of workers to use millions of dollars worth of supplies to build a 15 feet tall, 3 feet thick, 10 feet deep, 1,969 mile long, concrete wall? Keep in mind that this is nearly 780 million cubic feet of concrete structure (with thousands of miles of rebar reinforcing it) Would that be a satisfactory use of tax payer dollars? Yes yes. We must do all of this in order to save some money.

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  11. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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  12. Tina's input should be treated like any "letter to the editor" instead of an informative or newsworthy article. Shame on all of us for wanting the illegals to be penalized. Who do we think we are that we aren't able to just thank God we have never had to 'sneak and hide' just to try to live in a better place? Is seeing illegals trying to find a days work enough to send us off the deep end? Have mercy! What's on your table tonight...steak and potatoes? How about the featherbed you're going to rest on? get a life!

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  13. Tina has a right to her opinion but I disagree with it and I'm disappointed to know she feels that way. I have alot more respect for someone who wants to work and will do whatever he can to support his family rather than sit on his butt collecting unemployment and food stamps. To the "Realist's" post. You have the statistics incorrect, check it out on google, not even close to 60%. Thank god you'll never be president. Illegal's are not the problem with the ecomony or unemployment. Mr Bush put us in this mess, not a few hispanics on a street corner. Tina, are you suggesting if we suspect our neighbor is using an illegal that we call the police to report them? Just curious.

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  14. Tina, times are tough. Save some money, hire a wetback.

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  15. Do not hold or jail any illegal. Deport them back to their countries they are citizens in. Bill the countries for any costs involved.
    As for our border, post snipers all over the place and shoot anyone trying to cross into our country illegaly. Problem solved!

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