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News and Views from Menifee Valley, California |
by Steve
9/30/2008 12:45:00 PM
Mr. Harris will be speaking about some of the malevolent strategic tactics of the existing board to manipulate the election to its favor. Is this really representing the titleholders?You can hear the show live, this Sunday at 7:00pm, on the Internet at...
Whether voting in a major national election such as the Presidency of the United States or simply choosing the next terms board of directors in your local HOA it remains imperative to obtain as much information pro or con as possible. Knowledge is the best defense against unscrupulous power seekers.
I will be sending more on this before the end of the week. Since so many HOA's are near their election time, I am concentrating on this subject this Sunday.
Labels: Menifee-Lakes, Radio
Things I'd rather do than listen to Don Harris.
#1- Root canal work.
#2- Be dipped in Acid.
#3- Vote for Obama
etc....etc...etc.....
By 
, at September 30, 2008 1:35 PM
Hey I think you should do those things.
I have access to some muriatic acid I will sell you cheap.
I can reccommend a really bad dentist for you.
And I would think twice about the Obama thing, could last a long time!
Ha ha!
By , at September 30, 2008 1:43 PM
I'd rather go "fish" at www.plentyoffish.com. Maybe Don will join me; I understand he knows a great fishing hole in Murrieta.
By , at September 30, 2008 4:09 PM
I am so glad that i moved away from Menifee Lakes. Don Harris just keeps adding insult to the wounds there. Why doesn't he just go away and leave the nice people of Menifee Lakes alone. The beach club was a much more pleasant place to go to after he was fired. Don take your toys to another sand box to play, because the people of Menifee are pretty sick of you.
By , at September 30, 2008 6:37 PM
Hey Don Harris, before you take your toys and find another sandbox to play in, how 'bout returning all the stuff you took that belonged to the association!
By , at September 30, 2008 7:01 PM
The last three posts are all from RICK SAVARD.
hahahaha
By , at September 30, 2008 7:38 PM
Remember Mr. Savard,
We're not playing in a sand box. Isn't that what you said to Judy Hyneman?
By , at September 30, 2008 7:39 PM
Don Harris has chosen to be in the media?
This is a complete breach of the MLMA Board Code of Conduct!! Check it out at www.menifeelakes.com and review the Code of Conduct available there. This guy is out of control!
By , at September 30, 2008 7:52 PM
Harris- you are amazing!! You inject yourself into public matters by becoming a candidate; yet you cry when you are scrutinized. You remind be of the school yard bully who finally gets what he deserves. Cry big boy, cry.
BTW- did you run this by your Defense Attorney? Are you sure you won't say anything that will cause additional damage to you? Be careful. Be VERY careful; as this show will be recorded!!
By , at September 30, 2008 8:11 PM
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By , at September 30, 2008 8:58 PM
The last three posts are from Rick Savard.
hahahaha
By , at September 30, 2008 9:35 PM
Personal attacks that offer nothing constructive, I'll delete it everytime.
By 
Steve, at September 30, 2008 9:40 PM
Harris- how many retired Marines do you think will be listening to this program?
By , at October 01, 2008 12:01 AM
Someone seems to have a fetish for a "Rick Savard". Seems logical that it must come from Don Harris. Is Rick Savard one of the people who has a Restraining Order against Harris?
By , at October 01, 2008 7:28 AM
What could Harris possibly say that we haven't already heard before?
There are three standard responses from Harris:
1. "That's a lie"
2. "My brother is an Attorney"
3. "and the Courts will decide"
I would prefer to listen to a mime on your radio show, rather than Harris!
By , at October 01, 2008 8:01 AM
Harris is NOT qualified (nor authorized)to represent the MLMA Board!
1. He was awol from meetings for most of the year!
2. Hasn't participated in anything productive or beneficial to the community.
3. Continues to act for his own self interests, which is a breach of fiduciary duty!
4. Continues to expose this membership to liability by his actions and behavior (which has resulted in at least two Restraining Orders)
5. Does NOT have Board approval to speak "for the Board".
6. Harris is a disgruntled contractor who SUED his own membership! He has sued MLMA, the Riverside Sheriff's Dept, five ( yes, 5) members individually of this association, A Deputy of the RSO,Riverside County, and Sheriff Bob Doyle (RIC458659).
7. Harris is disruptive in the few board meetings he does attend and continues to breach the code of conduct required of all board members. ( Harris actually "flipped off", gave "the bird" at a little old lady who attended the last meeting!)
8. Harris does not know how to tell the truth.
No, Harris does NOT represent the MLMA Board and he is obligated to make that known!
By , at October 01, 2008 8:29 AM
Wow, this is some crazy stuff. I'm so glad I didn't buy into Menifee Lakes. You guys have a real problem.
By , at October 01, 2008 9:17 AM
Harris is NOT qualified (nor authorized)to represent the MLMA Board!
1. He was awol from meetings for most of the year!
A. He was threatened and Intimidated by the Association Attorney that if he showed up he would be SUED. I understand Harris had to go to court to get a Judge to rule that he was able to attend board meetings, and committee meetings.
2. Hasn't participated in anything productive or beneficial to the community.
A. I have attended the meetings, and I think Mr. Harris participated and made very constructive and productive contributions.
3. Continues to act for his own self interests, which is a breach of fiduciary duty!
A. This is a judgement of yours. I understand that a court will determine this, not you.
4. Continues to expose this membership to liability by his actions and behavior (which has resulted in at least two Restraining Orders)
A. The Association Executive Committee continues to expose themselves, the rest of the board, and the entire community to liability by its continued harassment, abuse of process, and threats against Harris.
5. Does NOT have Board approval to speak "for the Board".
A. I don't know anything about that. I don't think he needs anyone's approval to speak for himself. Sounds like another "control" issue to me. What is the current board afraid of?
6. Harris is a disgruntled contractor who SUED his own membership! He has sued MLMA, the Riverside Sheriff's Dept, five ( yes, 5) members individually of this association, A Deputy of the RSO,Riverside County, and Sheriff Bob Doyle (RIC458659).
A. I understand that he dropped the association once elected to the Board. The individuals sued will have to answer for their choices I guess.
7. Harris is disruptive in the few board meetings he does attend and continues to breach the code of conduct required of all board members. ( Harris actually "flipped off", gave "the bird" at a little old lady who attended the last meeting!)
A. I was present at the meeeting. He did no such thing. Boy you are really reaching the bottom of the barrel. You are disgusting!
8. Harris does not know how to tell the truth.
A. Seems to a lot of people just the other way around. People like you just love to throw accusations around! The only things you keep referring to are either baseless, undetermined allegations which have yet to be heard by a court. And your observations (for TWO years now) that a couple of wackos took out political restraining orders (based on lies told... at least according to Harris) and a lawsuit that has not been active against the associatin for over a year.
Get a Life!
No, Harris does NOT represent the MLMA Board and he is obligated to make that known!
A. I don't think Harris wants to represent THIS board! I don't think anyone in his/her right mind would want to represent THIS board.
By , at October 01, 2008 9:30 AM
Question: What is the one common denominator of the false allegations against the 2006 MLMA Board and the same false allegations against the subsequent 2007 MLMA Board?
Answer: Don Harris
Different Board, Same false allegations!
BYW: The "bird" was flipped to the sweet old lady in attendance at the last meeting(not the 75 year old woman protected with a Restrainig Order against Harris, another older senior). Just because "anonymous" says he didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Too bad for Harris there were multiple witnesses to it and have filed complaints which will be acted upon!
By , at October 01, 2008 9:43 AM
Well neighbors, you see what we've all had to live with far too long. Whether or not the public knows, likes or dislikes Mr. Harris, common sense tells us these men are out to slaughter before they let go. Read into them folks - their evil ways are pretty obvious: Bar Harris (by threats from assn-paid atty) from attending the meetings of the board to which he was elected by the homeowners and THEN publicize that he's willingly 'missed' all these meetings?? Have little old ladies apply for restraining orders (makes him look more beastly if its elderly feeling threatened)? direct their hired-assn-paid lake manager to apply for a restraining order to keep him off the lake (sure, to keep his job as lake mgr, Durante only did as directed because durante has his own set of problems!) No, Mr. Harris is not the beast they want one to believe; He's paying dearly for trying to stand up to the board he was elected to; most of us would have tucked-tail and run. Their sick obsession reiterates it's sick self by these harris-attacking posts over and over. If you have a sense of decency, be thankful, be REALLY thankful, you don't have to be exposed to these men and their demonic ways. With these pit bulls running the board and literally holding the community captive; NO one wants to speak up for fear they will become their next Mr. Harris (that is AFTER they destroy this one). Bullys thrive on getting hold and conquering a mr. harris; that's their outlet. Is that right Mr President?? Is that why you let them bully you and make it appear you're one of them?? Or it it just a weakness of yours? Remember, after all this; YOU, as Pres. will go down in history as running a rogue, destructive dictatorship. Books could be written on what all these men did by threats and actual harm to take over this board. Meanwhile, we, as homeowners have no security and no place to go to complain. Pay dues and don't make ripples. Big deal, our ONLY liberty is that we get to walk around the lake, that is, IF we carry our issued picture-badge to show the old lady riding the cart that we are REALLY members of ML encampment. Yes, this elderly litter-picking lady is our paid lake "security" to check badges and keep 'foreigners' away! Would you feel secure to have this little old lady riding a cart with her baseball cap on protecting you? Oh, I forgot, she has a camera to take your picture if you refuse to show your ID. Yet, our dues must be paid to support this mess! Their vendetta has passed into years now - how sick is that? They continue to "fiddle" while "Rome" (Menifee Lakes) burns (goes to pot).
Actually, there are only two pit bulls controlling the show, the rest are just their puppets and doing as they're told. We who live in ML stopped going to homeowners meetings after we heard over and over "you're JUST a homeowner" in response to whatever we tried to say. Then why waste our time to go? Its one of these pitbulls that, before he took over the board, people talked about because he used to sit in the audience 'lip-syncing' his infamous bad, bad word to the speaker and heckling any homeowner who looked at him. Do we have any writers who want to write a best seller; ML saga would be agreat seller. Note: NO, I am not Harris.
By , at October 01, 2008 11:41 AM
Things I'd rather do than listen to Don Harris:
1) Have my fingernails ripped out
2) Drop a Bowling Ball on my big toe
3) Vote for John McCain
By , at October 01, 2008 11:50 AM
Regarding the short Novel written by "no, I'm not Don Harris"(yea, right!), Actually, a "novel" is currently being written.
It's called CAUSE OF ACTION. In it is the whole "story" that portrays a disgruntled Contractor who seeked revenge against the Board who terminated the contract.
It lists all the damage this disgruntled contractor did to the association. Vandalism, theft, fraud, it's full of DRAMA.
The "story" isn't quite done yet, however, it should be available to all, very soon. Stay tuned.
By , at October 01, 2008 1:10 PM
I have lived in Menifee for almost 19years, and was a member of the Beach & Swim Club every summer. If you were lucky not to have any interaction with Mr Harris, you were one of the lucky ones. Over the years we saw many sides of Mr.Harris, some sticky sweet, some nasty and evil. He is good at putting on Mr Nice when he thinks he needs to for his best interest. However, Mr Harris has been known to have a bad temper, one example was when he had a confrontation with one of his lifeguard employees. The argument escalated to the point of Mr Harris actually striking this young man. Mr Harris knew he was wrong, and waited in front of this young man's home, waiting to talk with his parents about what had happened. He needed to make sure they did not press charges. To his benefit, they did not. Why? Because their son was not perfect, and had already had some issues with the law, and they did not want to make things worse for their son. Mr Harris was off the hook. The reason why I tell this story is to give just one example of why Mr Harris was a High Risk has a paid employee of this Assoc. He has even agreed that at times he has had an anger management problem, but said he has gotten therapy for it. Regardless, he is a ticking time bomb, and many of us are afraid of him and afraid to attend any meeting in which he will attend.
Mr Harris will deny this story, but I got it first hand from these parents.
By , at October 01, 2008 2:30 PM
Of course you and many others are afraid of Don Harris. He harasses people (multple restraining orders) and he is a Duck Killer.
By , at October 01, 2008 3:32 PM
Would love to know who wrote the allegation about Mr. Harris striking one of his employees. That's a laugh.
I used to work there, and I think I know the incident. I was working with another lifeguard, and that lifeguard began to physically fondle a female lifeguard, and try to get her to do nasty things with him. I remember her crying and going in to see Mr. Harris.
The culprit was brought in, and was fired. I remember he threatened to tell everyone that Mr. Harris 'put his hands on him'.
This is probably just another story he cooked up to make Mr. Harris look bad. But I am a witness to both sides of the story.
I was there, and I never saw Mr. Harris touch the lifeguard. This is the same lifeguard caught by Mr. Harris bringing alcohol to work.
It is amazing how most everyone who has something against Mr. Harris has had a run in with him over.... yes... THEM doing something wrong, and not liking being confronted about it. I found Mr. Harris to be a good boss. Sure he was tough, but if you did your job, there was never a problem.
Mr. Harris, how are you? I hope everything is going ok for you.
By , at October 01, 2008 3:53 PM
Two comments said something about books being written about the whole fiasco between Harris and the MLMA board.
Seriously? What are you going to do, take the manuscripts down to the copy shop next to Cathay and have the pages spine-bound? Are you going to go door to door to sell them? That's real cute and all, but don't waste your time.
Do you think people care that much? Who is going to buy a book about some small-town two-bit power-hungry HOA people who can't seem to play nice? Here's my message to all you people: NOBODY CARES!
All of this fighting and controversy you have engaged yourselves in will ultimately benefit you nothing and NOBODY will give a rip about it.
So have your little fits within the two city blocks of your kingdom, scream and cry and fight for your little vendettas, and just know that outside of those two blocks, nobody cares.
Nobody cares over on the east side of the 215, nobody south of Antelope cares, nobody east of Menifee Road cares, nobody driving down the middle of your kingdom on their way to Hemet cares, Nobody, not even most of the people in Menifee Lakes cares about your complaints, your cute little fits, and your adorable temper tantrums.
Get over yourselves, you bunch of self-absorbed babies. Have you read the paper lately? Have you even left Menifee lately? Did you know that HOA neighborhoods have a reputation for being undesirable? Do you know why? Because people like you post signs and knock on doors and manipulate their way into office, then proceed to go on these bat-$@*t insane rampages at the expense of the community - a community of people who DON'T CARE!!!
Go read some history books and realize you will never be mentioned in one. Then read about some of the fascist dictatorships and other insane party leaders who were eventually outed by their own people or killed by others who came in to stand up for the rights of their constituents. Don't go thinking for one second that even the MSJC cops have you on their radar, because nobody even cares about your little tyranny.
So tonight when you're at home watching TV, doing nothing productive with your life, do yourself a favor and consider that the world would be the same without you. If you never came out of your house again, nobody would come knocking. Nobody would care where you went. In-N-Out would open and the Target would move across the freeway, the sun will rise and set, Bush will continue in his idiocy, fish will eat mosquitoes off the water at the Menifee Lake Pond, and the earth will continue to get warmer tomorrow. Nobody, not even the ants invading your kitchen tonight, will care about what you did, or didn't do, at the MLMA except you and your little bully buddies and Don Harris.
What a sad, sad little bubble you live in. Stay at home so nobody pops it.
By Not From Menifee, at October 01, 2008 4:12 PM
To the former Harris employee,
Were you one of the two Harris employees that helped him shred MLMA documents under his control, just prior to his departure?
By , at October 01, 2008 4:29 PM
To anonymous @ 4:29
Are you a self centered troll who is going to scream and yell like an entitled little child who just won't stop until you get your way?
Just checking.
By , at October 01, 2008 4:59 PM
Hi there Harris:
Remember me, I'm the Retired Marine whom you called a liar!
Well, it's been roughly 24 hrs since you said the minutes of the Restraining Order Cases against you would be deleted from the Superior Court website, and guess what?
THEY REMAIN THERE!!
I also found additional stuff at this website.
Why did your wife file for a Restraining Order against you? What is "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION"?
By , at October 01, 2008 5:03 PM
Don, PLEASE,please don't do the talk show on Sunday night. PLEASE.
I am asking you to do yourself and your family a favor and leave this alone.
You are getting hammered in these exchanges and this anti-harris group will destroy you on Sunday.
This has gone too far, leave it alone and cancel, PLEASE.
By , at October 01, 2008 5:22 PM
From where I stand, the MLMA Board Candidates look like a bunch of lowminded bottomfeeders. To all the people throwing around personal attacks and using this forum to try to prove they have bigger junk than the other people, go find something else better do to, like serving your community by taking down all of those freaking signs everywhere.
By , at October 01, 2008 6:52 PM
From where I stand, the only MLMA Board member throwing around vile and defaming baseless attacks is shown to be Harris. No other Board member has posted a thing!
Don't let one rotten apple spoil your perspective of the functional MLMA Board.
By , at October 01, 2008 7:26 PM
to 'wanting peace'....
send me a personal email or call me and we can talk.
don
By , at October 01, 2008 7:27 PM
Thanks for pointing out my mistake, anon @ 7:26. I meant to call anyone - board member or candidate, or other "interested party" lowminded bottomfeeders. The rest of us frankly don't care.
By , at October 01, 2008 8:04 PM
Satan be GONE!
By , at October 01, 2008 8:05 PM
what a bunch of menifee drama people here, you should all chill and have a drink, water your garden and mind your own business
By , at October 01, 2008 8:06 PM
Harris, you still owe me an apology. The minutes to your Restraining Orders are still available on the Superior Court Website!
What's the problem!!??
Do I have to post those minutes again?
Man up and admit you lied and move on!
By , at October 01, 2008 8:20 PM
To the Lifeguard who worked for Mr Harris.
I know he was a tough boss, in fact I'd heard that he was actually a tyrant with most employees. Making some of the girls cry. I'm not sure young people should be treated like young marine cadets, but that's the way he ran his business. I guess if you didn't like it, you quit or got fired.
My son has worked for Ken Durante for the last 2 summers and he has much better people skills and knows how to motivate and encourage his employees. They all respected him because he earned it, not because he bullied them into it.
You know some people should just not work with the public. It takes a calm, secure, level headed person to deal with all walks of life. People can be difficult, but you have to learn to deal with them in a manner that gains you respect, not a restraining order.
By , at October 01, 2008 9:55 PM
How did my name get dragged into this??!! I haven't posted one thing to this blog until now.
Harris, I think you'd better realize that I am not the only one who knows what you've done and your methods. Obviously, there are many others.
Leave my name off this blog. I don't think this is the proper forum for any of this, in addition to the fact that there is ongong litigation and upcoming mediation.
Have you checked with your attorney on whether you should be participating in this sort of thing? I think he would tell you to knock it off. This is not helping you or the community.
Really, what do you hope to accomplish? Even one of your two supporters ("wanting peace") is asking you to stop this garbage.
By , at October 02, 2008 7:58 AM
Mr. Savard,
I think you will find one or two posts from Harris at the most here.
While I doubt that your only identifiable post is the only post you have made,
there is nothing in Harris' post which does any harm to the community.
I think you will find, if you trace the "IP's" as you supposedly told Harris you can do, that all other posts are from people in the community or outside of the community who are just sick of you and roach, menifee truth, the MLMA board and all of your 'buddies'.
By , at October 02, 2008 10:41 AM
@ anon October 02, 2008 10:41 AM:
RIGHT ON!!!
By M@, at October 02, 2008 8:22 PM
DOES DON HARRIS REALLY WORK AT CENTEX, AND ARE THE DUCKS SAFE THERE?
By , at October 02, 2008 10:09 PM
HARRIS LOVES DUCKS...
WITH CHANTI AND FAVA BEANS!
By , at October 02, 2008 10:17 PM
This post is for the man or woman who claims to be a 'retired' Marine.
I do apologize for saying that you were a liar in regards to the information that you found on the internet that 'references' two restraining orders taken out by Pauline Petrie and Ken Durante of WATER RESOURCES.
Your first set of instructions was inaccurate. It did not work as you stated.
I therefore emailed the webmaster, and posted his respose. His response would indicate that you had lied.
Before I had a chance to get back to you, you accused me of "fabricating' the webmaster communication and thereby called ME a liar.
Further, you persist in debunking the "former" Marine title afforded to those Marines no longer in active service. I sent you to the official site for the U.S. Marine Corps, where there is a special Titled Section for "FORMER" Marines.
You have your apology.
Will I get Mine?
Don Harris
T
By , at October 03, 2008 9:31 AM
Mr. Harris: After enduring what these men have put you thru over the last years, I have no doubt you can make it through this broadcast. Just know ahead of time these professional destroyers will be cocked and primed to attack at all costs. I'm also sure, given the community-wide pitiful reputations of these men, and how they have AGAIN turned a simple little community election into an outlet for their slaughtering, sick, blood thirsty, hungry tactics, many people will be tuned in for the next chapter. For goodness sakes, watch your back when you leave that evening, these 'boys' have no conscience. Most of us wonder; where in the world are these men's (boys) families during all this war? WHAT are they teaching their kids by their actions? Rest assured Mr. Harris, you have lots of friends here; more than you suspect; some are just afraid of becoming their target. So speak clearly and precise and settle a lot of things everyone is wondering about, and then let it rest; no man could do more. Man just can't rebuild as fast as they tear down. Shameful.
By , at October 03, 2008 11:24 AM
To anon 11:24 (harris)
Just what exactly have "these two men" done?
In all the postings, all I hear from Harris are extremely vague, allegations of "some" things they have done.
Are you saying they are "evil" because they put up political signs? If so, call the SIGN POLICE!
If I remember right, and believe Harris has admitted such, everything "these men" have done, has been a reaction to an action of Harris.
"These men" only became active in the MLMA political scene AFTER Harris was terminated and his gang bamboozled the associastion into a recall because of the 2006 Board's decision to terminate Harris' contract.
God Bless these guys who came onto the scene and stood up to Harris and his antics. Without them, Menifee Lakes would be under the control of a Contractor whose behavior warrants Multiple Restraining Orders.
By , at October 03, 2008 12:29 PM
Want to know how to tell when Harris is lieing?
His lips move.
By , at October 03, 2008 1:15 PM
If I remember right, and believe Harris has admitted such, everything "these men" have done, has been a reaction to an action of Harris.
Actually: I don't think Harris has addressed that issue. But one of his previous employees said something like
"people who lie about Harris are those who have violated rules, laws, etc. and have been confronted about it by Harris".
Also, if we can believe the posters here who are lambasing Harris, the restraining orders were not issued while Harris was a contractor for the Association.
And unless my web research is faulty,
My research shows Both SAVARD and ROACH also had TRO's issued against them, for placing Mr. Harris' wife, 8 year old daughter, and minor son in fear for their lives.
Funny how those things get turned around isn't it?
By , at October 03, 2008 1:33 PM
"Funny how those things get turned around isn't it?"
TURNED AROUND? LIKE "TURN AROUND AND PLACE YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK"?
Is that was said to Harris when his home was raided by the Sheriff's dept, when they confiscated all his computers, in the RSO's investigation into the crimes against Menifeetruth.com and it's email account?
By , at October 03, 2008 2:08 PM
Oh that's a good one! hahaha
I heard that nothing happened. Other than a little more of the harassment from Savard and Roach.
I heard that the charges were dropped by the DA "in the interest of JUSTICE"
By glad-to-be-outta-there, at October 03, 2008 3:16 PM
Has anyone seen the tacky bedsheets and signs centered around the upcoming election for the Menifee Lakes board? Well Menifee Lakes board has again started their malicious, destructive campaign against any candidate that they know will refuse to jump when they pull their strings to do what they dictate. Yes, folks, the board at ML has no conscience in how they accomplish their antics to keep control. They exist on vindictiveness vendettas and grudges, keeping the community reeling in destructive, threatening fliers in mailboxes, smearing sheets hung on builders' signs, signs posted anywhere they can find to put one. Their sick smear tactics should be evaluated before they actually do some real damage. Anyone in their right mind should know the ones they're set to keep off are the only independent thinkers who stand up for the homeowners; Think about it - that's why they don't want them. Its not the nature of these mafia-minded men to sit back and allow the homeowners to freely choose the ones they want, they're AFRAID they may get a free spirit they can't control, who will reveal the 'secrets' going on with the board. Yes, they excel in smear campaigns, or personal damage, to instill fear in the community. Neighbors, don't assume by looking at the serene lake for which it prides itself that it is as peaceful as it appears; it may as well be protected with concertina wire.
By Anonymous, at September 26, 2008 9:05 AM
By , at October 03, 2008 3:25 PM
To "glad to be out of ther"
You were so right! Here is the article I found the North County Times:
NORTH COUNTY TIMES
SPENCER SOPER
Staff Writer
VISTA ---- A Rancho Santa Fe attorney pleaded guilty in Superior Court on Wednesday to illegally connecting to a sewer line, which caused thousands of dollars in damage and polluted a creek that flows into San Elijo Lagoon.
David Peters, 42, was ordered to pay $93,000 in fines and damages, sentenced to three years probation, and must do 200 hours of volunteer work, officials with the district attorney's office said.
The charges will be forwarded to the state bar association, which will determine if it could affect his standing as an attorney, Deputy District Attorney Evan Miller said.
Peters was not immediately available for comment Wednesday.
Peters is a partner in the Encinitas-based firm of Peters & Freeman, which specializes in representing homeowner associations.
According to the charges, Peters dug a 400-foot-long trench from his Rambla De Las Flores home, across a creek, to illegally tie into a Cardiff Sanitation District sewer line. Miller said it was a shoddy connection and caused sewage to pollute the creek.
As part of Peters' guilty plea, he is required to pay the Environmental Protection Agency, the state Department of Fish & Game and the county Department of Land Use for their investigations, Miller said.
Peters was also ordered to pay the Cardiff Sanitation District for damages to the sewer line and San Diego Gas & Electric for unrelated damages to power connections, Miller said.
Encinitas public works director Lin Wurbs said the illegal sewer hook-up caused about $20,000 in damages.
"It completely destroyed the integrity of our pipe," Wurbs said. "We want that part of the line replaced so we don't have ground water infiltration and sewage leaking into the creek."
Besides contaminating the creek with sewage, the poor connection allowed ground water to seep into the sewer line, Wurbs said. That meant the San Elijo sewage treatment plant was treating water it otherwise would not have to treat, she said.
Specifically, Peters pleaded guilty to misdemeanor counts of vandalism, unlawful discharge into a sewer, water pollution and diversion of a natural stream bed.
Mervin Hee, a patrol supervisor with the state Department of Fish & Game, said digging a trench across a creek stirs up silt and interrupts the water flow, which is harmful to fish.
The creek the illegal sewer line crossed empties into San Elijo Lagoon.
Kevin Johnson, president of the San Elijo Lagoon Conservancy, said that bacteria counts creep up in the lagoon every once in a while, which could be due to illegal sewer connections. But it is not a "voluminous problem," he said.
Contact staff writer Spencer Soper at (760)943-2313 or ssoper@nctimes.com.
By , at October 03, 2008 3:34 PM
The community wants to know if its true that the embarrassing ML CFO has taken the liberty of writing off $45,000.00 while at the same time initiates so MANY legal actions to sue our homeowners? What was in the $45K; dues or what? I must be missing something. What criteria did he use in that decision or is just another of his 'bad decisions'? Here our captive community is, everything controlled by savard,stamper,and roach (they appointed the themselves as the 'three person executive committee') to let the others 'know who's boss'. People, remember these names along with the ones plastered all over of the ones they know will dance only when they're told.
By , at October 03, 2008 3:44 PM
I think all financial records are available by right to each ML homeowner.
If you are a homeowner, just ask the folks at your Property Management Company (The one that GAVE Jerry Stamper $5000.00).
I think they have to give them to you.
By , at October 03, 2008 7:16 PM
To anon at 1:15pm
Actually that is a lawyer joke...
But I guess if you can apply it to harris, we can apply it to Savard, Roach, Stamper, ($5,000 Stamper), Vejar, Cameron, and Schnoor as well.
Heck, I think you are ALL a bunch of liars!
Hey, I will put up $500 towards the contract for a lie detector. Then both sides can ask questions for a half hour and we can ALL see who's lying!
Any takers?
By , at October 03, 2008 7:24 PM
Nice to see the 'signs' thread is gone. Thought it would never end.
When is this one going to be over.
Hurry up and write a couple more articles Steve so we will drop off the end of the earth :-)
By , at October 03, 2008 7:26 PM
You people are out of control.
By , at October 03, 2008 7:39 PM
I wonder how Therese will interview Harris; will she actually conduct the interview from his room at the mental ward?
By , at October 03, 2008 11:43 PM
You will just have to tune in to find out.
By , at October 04, 2008 9:45 AM
This group likes to use the county clerk records as a whip, pushing us to check out ALL the county court records on Harris, (even providing steps to get there along with the case numbers), we finally did...it seems he's not the only one disclosed; appears Savard needs to clean up his own act. If his outright drive to destroy another man's life and family resulted in the crumbling of his own, was it worth it? Life's lessons are like a boomerang; what you do to others, good or bad, will return to hit you. How far is this man going to go before he satisfies his own drive; THAT's what we're all wondering! Sad, he doesn't realize that he has yet to pay the full price just to be known in the community as the bully conqueror in another man's demise! In his insisting that everything is from Harris.. NO, I'm NOT Harris; I'm just sick to death of being exposed to all this man has done/IS still doing in our community!
By , at October 04, 2008 10:31 AM
I'm sorry, but again, just what exactly has this guy Savard done? I've seen the political signs and they promote four people. Vejar, Moffitt, Cameron, and Schnoor.
So much to do about this guy Savard, but personally don't get it. Is he even running for the Board? I thought the other four candidates were, Hynemon, Haris, Splateflora, and Sylvestor. Sounds to me that this poster has it in for him and is using this website and the election as an excuse to hurt him.
What are you being exposed to that we are not?
By , at October 04, 2008 1:10 PM
If you don't live here, it does not matter.
If you do live here, you already know.
A lot of people believe he is behind an effort to destroy the reputation of Harris.
By , at October 04, 2008 1:49 PM
Well, I do live here, have for a decade, and I don't know what you are talking about. That is why I asked you to explain what you have been exposed to. You make a big deal about "all the stuff" this guy is doing, yet you totally dodge identifying anything.
I also said that I knew who were the candidates in this election, and "Savard" isn't one of them. While I could understand the political attacks of a political opponent, this guy doesn't appear to be your opponent. So what gives?
Are you looking for a sympathy vote? You know, "poor me"? Well, I certainly don't want weak people protecting the assets of this corporation that I am a member of, and you appear very weak.
Grow up! If you got a problem with "Savard" go to his house and confront the guy.
By , at October 04, 2008 3:40 PM
Once again,
Don Harris here. If anyone wants to know anything about any issues surrounding me. Let him/her call me, like a grownup, instead of hiding behind anonymous posts.
I am tired of those pretending to be me, pretending NOT to be someone else, pretending pretending.
If you have any concerns or questions, call me. 951-623-4421; or eamil me harrisz@inland.net
Don't do either if you don't have the guts to identify yourself.
Otherwise, as the young boy from Callie Said...
"TAKE A HIKE".
Signed,
The real Don Harris
951-623-4421
I cannot stand COWARDS
By , at October 04, 2008 4:09 PM
Question: How does Harris know the ANONYMOUS kid from Callie was a young boy??!!
Answer: BECAUSE HARRIS WROTE IT, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER "ANONYMOUS" POSTS THAT HE NOW CLAIMS HE IS TIRED OF.
By , at October 04, 2008 4:46 PM
623-4421
To all the COWARDS!!!
I have not received a single call!
Everyone is afraid to be known for who he/she is....
right!!!
Don Harris
By , at October 04, 2008 5:30 PM
Relax Don. You seem to be having one of those "anger management issues" right now.
No, we just don't like the idea of having our conversation with you secretly recorded. There will plenty to talk about tomorrow night.
Take your medicine and calm done.
By , at October 04, 2008 6:44 PM
that's "calm DOWN"...
By , at October 04, 2008 6:52 PM
I always find that reading helps me to calm done. Don, I suggest you visit www.menifeetruth.com and read the truth about Menifee Lakes.
By , at October 04, 2008 7:21 PM
You know, I did. And I can say with confidence that each and every statement that attributes motive is FALSE.
I can say that each and every allegation is either false on its face, or a severe distortion of truth so much as to be a lie.
Of course, like you, they have tried to cloak themselves in anonymity.
Once again COWARDS. LIKE YOU.
Don Harris
By , at October 04, 2008 8:25 PM
Dude, I think I just figured out who is telling the truth and who is not. I just went to www.menifeetruth.com
and pushed "disgruntled!"
This website has all kinds of stuff to support whats been said on here about the things Harris done. It appears as though Harris HAS screwed the MLMA HOA because if you click on to the red words, there is all kinds of backup showing what he done.
Harris, if your reading this, you should be ashamed. Right now, I do think you ARE the liar here. How do you explain you self?
By , at October 04, 2008 9:10 PM
How dare you ( Harris) call any of us COWARDS. Post a valid phone number and maybe you'll get your phone calls.
By , at October 04, 2008 9:26 PM
Harris, you said that you can say with confidence that each and every statement [on www.menifeetruth.com] that attributes motive is FALSE.
What exactly does that mean!?
Are you actually confirming the acts stated, but dispute why you did them?
Who would care why you did them? But thanks for confirming you did rip off Menifee Lakes Master Association.
By , at October 04, 2008 9:56 PM
Harris, you should spend less time making "anonamous" posts to blog sites and spend more time talking and being honest with your wife.
How come she didn't know you were running for re-election to the Menifee Lakes Board?
I'm guessing you got some major decisions to make right about now.
Honesty is ALWAYS the best policy(funny you've haven't learned that by now?!).
Try being honest with everyone for a change, including yourself.
Just trying to help.
By , at October 04, 2008 10:11 PM
I have been away for a while, but I have to say, either you people are on drugs or drinking or something!
Can't you read? Or is that part of the 'trash harris' code... "we can't speak intelligently, read with understanding, and hear what we read" "we must make ourselves idiots to believe what we say"
Heck, even idiods couldn't believe this junk.
I believe Harris, mainly because someone could not have planned and plotted the way you guys say it happened, without someone knowing about it.
You have made a house of straws it appears to me.
Watch out, they crumble pretty fast; sometimes with just a single straw removed.
I got a call earlier this evening encouraging me to do whatever I can to get off work, so I can be in court when they have the hearing on the alleged violation of the restraining order by Harris. I was told there will be some big surprises that I would not want to miss. I don't know if they have something real big on Harris, or if Harris' attorney has something up his sleeve. But I am gonna be there, for sure.
By , at October 05, 2008 12:28 AM
Anon @ 12:28am,
The "apetizer" for the hearing can be found on the "digruntled" page of www.menifeetruth.com
Just remember to click on to the red text of that page!
By , at October 05, 2008 7:51 AM
Take a look at the Duck Kill Contract posted on www.menifeetruth.com
Notice that Harris signs it as Menifee Lakes Master Association? Harris was Professional Aquatic Safty Services or known as P.A.S.S. He was NOT MLMA!!
Take a gander at where Harris notes where the future correspondence with the Exterminator Company is to be sent; Harris' HOME address!! Not the address of the association.
What a plan eh? Harris enters into an unauthorized contract,to remove domestic ducks after his last day as Lake Manager,
a) when removing Domestic Ducks had NEVER been done before
b) without Board approval/knowledge
c) requests that all correspondence is mailed to his personal residence.
Explain to me, Mr. October 05, 2008 7:51 AM, how ANYONE could have been aware of this sham and parting shot at the community!
By , at October 05, 2008 10:07 AM
people,
do whatever you have to do to get off work and show up in court. It promises to be a show worth seeing.
all the stars will be there including David Peters (the association atty) James Harris - (obviously harris' atty).
Peters says his case will take two hours plus! WOW can you imagine what they have on harris that would take 2 hours plus to present?
I want to see what kind of defense Harris has.
Let's meet in the parking lot at 8 am on October 8 for a tailgate party.
I will take bets on either side, and will update you on the odds as we get closer to trial day.
By , at October 05, 2008 10:23 AM
Menifee Truth/Lies- give us a break trying to advertise your site which is full of half truths. You two boy go play on the freeway and give the community a break. To the person asking questions about Savard who lives in the community, if you do, you don't attend your HOA meetings because Savard is the acting CFO who is handling a million dollars HOA account and he doesn't even have a college education. So it's pretty hard to address issues when you've not witnessed them for yourself. Don't be a cow and follow the herd.
By , at October 05, 2008 10:34 AM
Thank you Menifee Lake Residents. Woke up one morning to see my community littered with Menifee Truth signs. It made me sick to my stomach. I later noticed ALL of the signs were down. It was illegal to have them up in the HOA anyway, so thank you homeowners for saying Enough is Enough. Believe it or not Jim Roach and Rick Savard (both HOA Directors), you can't spoon feed the community or maybe you can-the old people in Palmilla, who were told that Don Harris was on the lake shooting the ducks, lol.
Hey Don, have Roach and Savard called yet?? What's wrong with being recorded if you're speaking the truth anyway?? No foul no harm, right.
One more question: by the way, Roach,Savard, and Stamper- how much association money have you used suing Harris? Wake up people, they are using Association money/Association attorney as their way of getting back at Harris and we're paying for it!!
By , at October 05, 2008 10:59 AM
That last post is very scary! Inviting someone to committ suicide on the freeway? Some one call the Cops!
By , at October 05, 2008 11:02 AM
Hey Bluestar,
1. Of all the things to get "sick to your stomach" over, it was political signs? You are one strange dude!(BTW- political signs are not illegal, look it up!)
2. You ask "what's wrong with being recorded?" Well....IT'S AGAINST THE LAW!!!
I know Harris had a history of illegally recording people and meetings, but that doesn't make it legal. In fact he was OFFICIALLY reprimanded for this by a previous MMLA Board!
3. You should be concerned about association funds. Get Harris to return the funds and property he bamboozled from the association and the MLMA will be whole again.
By , at October 05, 2008 11:33 AM
OH MY GOSH!!!
Having just visited this www.menifeetruth.com and reading the 'disgruntled" page, and clicking onto the red words, I am OUTRAGED!!
Harris you are a wacko!! Walund, Rozzer, Beckendorf you are just as wacko to support this guy!
Oh, I forgot, JUDY HYNEMAN is another candidate and is Harris' running mate! Oh Dear!
What was going on here in 2006? Peyton Place? This is so out of control I am shaking!
Shame, Shame on you Harris and you followers. Oh my!
By , at October 05, 2008 11:49 AM
Menifee Truth Garage is not considered political (signs). You obiviously think you are greater than you are- NOT!! If you don't speak mistruths recorder or not, you have nothing to worry about. And for once and for all, if Harris broke the law, he'd be in jail...stop the bashing and the lies, the community has had it. Hey, I understand that the Truth (Roach and Savard) had their computers taken by law enforcement also. Don't hear them admitting that do we. Understand that Harris had his computers returned and was charged with nothing. Just another lie from these people who are so afraid of Mr. Harris appartently.
By , at October 05, 2008 2:39 PM
Bluestar, totally agree with you concerning this stupid website. People are so simple-minded at times and believe the most crazy things-thus moving like cows and following the herd. Anyone with half a brain knows that these guys and their site's only purpose is to create grief. I was really hoping for a RECALL to clean up the Board. Spoke with residents of Sun City where Roach is known for being exactly that, a ROACH who never dies and has his other buggie friends do his dirty work-like wasting our Association money--understand something like $50,000 thus far. That's what we should all be concerned with. If Harris broke the law, why isn't he in jail?? Bottom line, because he hasn't broken any. Good luck to you Mr. Harris, looking forward to hearing you speak this evening to all this nonsence.
By , at October 05, 2008 2:56 PM
FOLKS, menifee lakes is tired...REALLY tired...READ INTO THIS MESS!! What's so very sick is that Savard, Roach (AND Stamper who is board president and COULD PUT A STOP TO ALL THIS!) are STILL rampant in their psycho-driven-rage to literally annihilate Harris before our eyes. Put it together, doesn't take a rocket scientist to know they are running scared and pulling out ALL stops, digging up anything and everything they can (stuff they have driven into the ground and worked to death already)...ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONTROL AND CAN'T STOP HIM FROM BEING ON THE RADIO! WHAT WILL HE SAY WITHOUT "THEIR" PRIOR APPROVAL?? How dare he even think of doing that without THEIR permission?!? So here they go again...its the same Harris that has been brazen enough to talk back to them...and after all... the community knows Savard and Roach are the only kings in Menifee Lakes!! How dare ANY of us not agree with them ! Come on neighbors, this mess has been going on for several years now and its as strong, sick and dangerous as ever. That's what speaks volumes and should be evaluated before it goes any further. They're so quick to accuse Harris of anger problems; what is THEIR problem to be literally controlled with an evil plan of a man's demise, all from their vendettas and grudges that are eating them alive?? So harris may have an anger problem (don't most of us at some time or another?); I'll take harris' anger problem anytime over the sneaky-cowardly, killer-instinct of these two. At least I could see what I was up against. Surely, SOMEONE needs to get these men some help! MENIFEE LAKES - STAND UP - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! How would you like to be exposed to their never ending tactics as Harris has been? Hate, love, like, dislike, or just tolerate him.....NO MAN deserves to be treated like this! Homeowners, its your dues they're wasting in their personal battle of destruction! We're smart enough to see how clever they think they are by steering unknowing people to their website who may not realize the ENTIRE story from the beginning; (yes, THEIR SITE, SAVARD & Company; how stupid do they think we all are?) where they are then exposed to a bunch of garbage (same old putrid garbage by the way) they've used from the start of this war! Its no wonder why Menifee Lakes' reputation has gone down the tubes...it simple: because they have no time to do anything except to look for new ways to get harris... WITH the atty that harris' dues are going to pay for !! They think thats funny...real funny, but we're all paying for it. Folks, Savard and Roach are hiding behind the association atty 'they' hired as soon as they 'took-over' the board! Homeowners lost all respect of having a say in anything from that time on. They become brave when they're hiding behind the atty...Yes, the atty Roach had already used in defeating Sun City folks, where by the way; he owns 15+ rentals in Sun City which is why he fought so hard and dirty over there. Is it any wonder, since he already had atty Peters in his pocket, that he wanted him over here in ML? It's a shame that society has to be exposed to a war like this, but its also a shame that they cart a few elderly women around with them to do their dirty work, all for appearance sake. Now, for you folks fortunate enough to be 'on the outside looking in' on us folks stuck in Menifee Lakes, would you trust YOUR investments and values in care of men who find time to be in a never-ending, raging war of destruction like this?
By , at October 05, 2008 3:01 PM
Thank goodness for good people like Rozzer, Beckendorf, Walund and Hyneman for standing up for Harris as "My Gosh" states. Just want them to know if they visit this blog, that there is a lot of support out here for Harris-we did put him in office after the Recall didn't we. We are not fooled by these foolish men and their hatred.
God Bless you Mr. Harris and may his strength strengthen you and your family through this terrible period.
By , at October 05, 2008 3:07 PM
The two last blogs were wonderful!!Just hit everything on the nail. Nothing more to be said. My hat goes off to you.
By , at October 05, 2008 3:17 PM
Who is Rozzer?
By , at October 05, 2008 3:21 PM
Harris, do you really wish to expose Beckendorf, Rosell, Walund and Hyneman? I'm surprised that you would publicize your connection to them.
Did you forget a "little" incident last year involving an assault with a caustic chemical? Wasn't one of the perpetrators fearful of losing her Nursing Position because of her involvement?
I know, maybe www.MenifeeTruth.com can post the Riverside County Sheriff's Report made on this assault.
I remember this incident and know there were photos. Cool.
By , at October 05, 2008 3:38 PM
SAVARD, give it up; your 11:49 a.m. post gives you away in its gutter wording. Seriously, I really am concerned for your state of mind and would help you if I could, but you make "reprobate mind" appear mild in comparison. If I had to choose whose problem I would rather deal with; Harris's anger or your evilness, I'd have to take Harris's.
By , at October 05, 2008 3:55 PM
TO the 11:02 poster of today: YOU THINK THE COMMENT ABOUT THE FREEWAY IS SCARY ? LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IS REALLY SCARY: SAVARD telling Harris that he would provide the gun if he would commit suicide with it. Yes, SAVARD did exactly that. So we're not coming off the cuff when we say these two, SAVARD and ROACH are scary! What more do they need to do before people start listening to us? Have you ever been followed and harrassed by these two? Have you had scary notes left on your car, on your door in the middle of the night to let you know they'd been there, your power cut off on the side of your house; lights shining in your bedroom windows in the middle of the night; the list could go on forever ! That's not to mention the vulgarities that spew out of SAVARD's mouth steadily! Then have to have someone like this in charge of your HOA with controlling and wasting the dues while your community goes to pot? Come on, we need help in this community! Must Harris pay for these sickos forever? He has endured more than any man should ever have to endure; and yet today, he'd give his enemies the shirt off his back; he's that caring.
By , at October 05, 2008 4:30 PM
"Poor Poor Pitiful me!"
The Sheriff's Dept has it in for me.
The Judges don't BELIEVE with me.
People don't understand me.
CALL THE WHAMBULANCE YOU BIG CRY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By , at October 05, 2008 5:26 PM
I have in front of me, the Menifee Lakes Financials.
CFO Savard has Championed the expenses to the tune of being UNDER BUDGET BY $111,000.00!!!!
Did you hear that? $111,000.00 under budget thru August. I would urge all MLMA members to get a copy of the financials and confirm the above.
Harris you are so out of control with your false allegations and story telling. Get a life!
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