13 Comments:

• Where can I find the latest news for closure stores?

  By  Starbucks Closure List, at July 19, 2008 1:07 PM  

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• Maybe the mom and pop shops can come back.

  By  Anonymous, at July 19, 2008 2:44 PM  

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• If you look at where the stores are that they are closing, it was poor planning to begin with.

  By  Anonymous, at July 19, 2008 8:19 PM  

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• They are closing the Hemet locations because it takes two days to get there even if you live 3 blocks away. Remove some of the stops signs already. Jeez.

  By  Anonymous, at July 19, 2008 11:14 PM  

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• There are till mom and pop shops. The just sell other prands likes Peet's and Tully's. Drive around Murrietta sometime you will see small shops. What kills most small shops isnt Starbucks its the lack of qualified baristas and poor bean selection. As a person who has had several friends in the business and some who still own stores throughout the country I dream of the day Menifee can add some real quality cafes with real quality roasted beans and pastries. I am not a snob i enjoy good food. I have lived in Menifee for 2 years and i am sick of the mass produced factory coffee in Starbucks. You should try the coffee place off of Scott and Antelope next to Albertson great little place, nice staff and decent coffee and pastry. No i dont know the owner nor am i that person. Well thanks thats my 2 cents.

  By  Anonymous, at July 20, 2008 9:42 AM  

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• To the poster above are you talking about "IT's A GRIND"? The girls in there are very sweet. The coffee sure does beat "StarCraX". Only I wish they were a lot closer then Scott Road...

  By  Anonymous, at July 20, 2008 10:04 AM  

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• I am a coffee shop owner myself but my locations are currently located on Fort Riley, Kansas, an Army base. They have been in business for 2 years.
  
  I agree that Starbuck's coffee is poor quality and over-roasted.
  
  With regards to your comment about why mom and pop coffee shops don't open up here, It is very hard to find quality coffee and the margins are very slim for mom and pop shops. In short, we loose money hand over fist when compared to chains.
  
  The rising cost of milk and coffee is hurting us. At my shop we have an excellent brand of coffee bean, the best I have ever had and it is sold wholesale only. But they recently bumped up my prices to over $10 a lb! It is cheaper to buy organic coffee at Sam's Club.
  
  So how am I to survive trying to sell good coffee? The issue is that mom and pop shops don't have the buying power, so we pay full retail prices for everything, even when we buy it wholesale. Same with milk and syrups.
  
  People already complain about high coffee prices. Many would rather pay $1.75 for a McDonalds latte.
  
  That being said, this is why mom and pop shops are not opening in my opinion, and those that do often end up going out of business.
  
  "It's a Grind" is not a mom and pop. They are a large chain that franchises out. They get the benefit of product pricing that is reserved for large organizations. I love the staff there, I am not a fan of their particular bean choice, but certainly a far cry from Starbucks!
  
  Another issue is trying to work with Riverside County Health Dept. They are notoriously the worst in all of So. California. The rules and requirements they impose on food/drink establishments rival the Tax Code! It is very expensive as well.
  
  My cafe was going to open a location here in Menifee at the MVAC Athletic Club (and be open to the public). But after a market analysis and trying to jump through the county hoops, it was not going to be a good business move and we stalled the project.
  
  It is my opinion that it is very difficult to open a mom and pop retail operation here in Riverside county and not loose all your life savings on it.

  By  Sarah, at July 20, 2008 1:16 PM  

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• I for one life STARBUCKS. i will not drink anything else. At least none are closing here.

  By  Anonymous, at July 20, 2008 5:07 PM  

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• I think there is a Starbucks slated for the new center @ Newport and Haun... at least there was as of a couple weeks ago.

  By  Anonymous, at July 20, 2008 11:25 PM  

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• Im not surprised they are closing some. In some areas - there are Starbucks one block from each other. If you cant drive one extra block - than you dont need the coffee. Just sucks that there will be MORE vacant buildings.

  By  Anonymous, at July 21, 2008 9:02 AM  

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• I went into a Starbucks the other day and needed to use the bathroom. When I opened the bathroom door there was another Starbucks inside the bathroom. People complain about school taxes but will spend $5 everyday for a cup of coffee

  By  Anonymous, at July 22, 2008 12:26 PM  

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• You gotta love that comment! Yes, the Starbucks habit is a bit of a fad. It is a status symbol. However, I am waiting for the support groups to crop up because separation from latte may be more trumatic than forclosure.

  By  Anonymous, at July 22, 2008 9:52 PM  

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• When I want my coffee like my women, strong and bitter, I go to Starbucks!

  By  Anonymous, at July 23, 2008 8:15 AM  

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