Shut Down the MSJC Police Department

With our state in ever-increasing debt, which you can argue is putting pressure on K-14 district budgets, maybe it's time to shut down t...

With our state in ever-increasing debt, which you can argue is putting pressure on K-14 district budgets, maybe it's time to shut down the MSJC Police, and convert it into a campus security unit.

City of Menifee now has its own police force.

Perhaps MSJC Board of Trustees can send a letter to Ahnold that money is being wasted here.

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  1. I'm sorta lost here. I thought the MSJC 'are' only for campus security. Does the county or Menifee City pay them anything? The college pays them to protect their campus, but for far too long the rest of us in the area have been exposed to their 'Barney-Fife' ways on streets OFF campus. Their reputation is an embarrasment to MSJC, much less having them considered as a valid force off campus. With their tarnished image, which continues to rot their existence, MSJC Board needs to be ashamed...unless they too are of the same caliber. BOTTOM LINE: The citizens couldn't agree with you more Steve.

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  2. Not only should the police department be shut down, an independent law enforcement agency needs to investigate the Board of Trustee and the police department leadership. Not sure is you have seen this website, amazing stuff.


    www.msjcpdlawsuit.com

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  3. Steve...Why did you open this can of worms? You know that there is a lawsuit pending and this will only fan the fire!

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  4. This is a dead horse....

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  5. I think the lawsuit speaks for itself. This money pit of a police department must go. Thanks for keeping us informed Steve, I had no clue what was going on at the college. Very eye opening.

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  6. what area do they cover besides the college?

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  7. This is an excellent point, Steve. Converting to campus security or contracting with the Sheriff's dept for police services are two options that would save the district money.

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  8. I couldn't agree more. I am sick and tired of hearing about how this department has cast a bad light on law enforcment. We have a new city and a new, stronger, presence from the sheriff's department. Steve is roght, save evryone money and close this place down.

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  9. the only people who do not think the services of MSJC police to the city of menifee are embarASSing are the MSJC cookie cops!

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  10. Steve, I for one commend you for finally bringing this tragic, albeit compelling, story to your readers. The thing that really concerns me most is the fact that Chief Kevin Segawa, unlike other public officials in the past, has never publically denied any of the allegations made against him and his department.

    I recognize that he is not a (former) Sheriff Corona, but any reasonable and prudent person would have asked the Press Enterprise or Valley News or you for an interview where he could state his position. The suspicious thing is that he is hiding behind the "there is a lawsuit pending" or "there is an internal investigation pending" veil of secrecy. As I'm sure most would agree, someone who has nothing to hide and was being accused of such reprehensible acts would stand up and fight.

    I wonder where this "pending investigation" was when his corporal was (allegedly) having sex on duty and threatening his subordinates. I wonder where the "pending investigation" was when one of his officers (allegedly) attacked another officer and then the victim officer was later fired.

    I have followed this story from the beginning, Steve, and agree with the general consensus: CLOSE MSJC PD. I do, however, have one other recommendation: have a federal agency do an audit of Kevin Segawa and the MSJC PD. I shudder to think what will be discovered, Steve. But my gut instincts tells me that something is coming and it’s not good for Kevin Segawa, the MSJC and the reputation of the higher ups at the college (the BOT, HR and college President Roger Shultz).

    What some of your posters are failing to understand, Steve, is that regardless of the fact that the MSJC “Police Officers” are only security guards, they violated the public / student trust. We entrust the safety of our sons and daughters to them each and every time they attend a class at the MSJC. So to downplay the seriousness of the allegations simply because these guys/gals are not real cops is not only foolish, but irresponsible.

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  11. Anonymous February 15, 2009 8:37 PM.
    How dare you blame Steve for "opening this can of worms" and pointing a finger at him. Shame on you.
    Steve is absolutely right on this one, we as taxpayers in the city, should not be paying for this department even without lawsuit that you mention.
    The city has the Sheriff's department now.

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  12. Steve or anyone in the know, all I can say is OMG! I live in the Lakes and would see the MSJC cops in my area. I really did not think much of it as we really are not that far from the campus.

    After reading the lawsuit website I am really disgusted as to whats going on over there. I also had no idea there were so many problems with such a tiny police department.

    After reading what the police chief did to the employee he arrested I started to cry. These things are not supposed to happen! I noticed on the web site the college has not requested any outside police agency to investigate. Does anyone on here know why?

    I love this site Steve, you bring so many things to the public eye that many of us here in Menifee never hear about. None of my neighbors knew, they do know, and many of them are know viewing this site! Keep up the good work!

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  13. This is a great idea, Those officers have pulled some stupid stuff over the past few years. They dont even pay attention to their own campus. When I attended MSJC i park on campus without a parking pass because I knew they never check (had some insight that they check once a semester) and they are to busy harassing the neighborhood. Like telling my sister her lights on her car were not on... at 5pm when the sun was still in the sky...

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  14. Time for a Change, MSJC Yahoo Police department do not handle violations on the campus, where campus police would be foot and patrol soldiers. More visible other riding around Menifee in their new cars. I saw a MSJC PD in the old Target Parking lot at Christmas with 3 guys sitting on the curb and he was searching their car...The school was closed. Why in the hell is over there..Get rid of wasteful spending we are paying for a Police Department in Menifee..The school can ease tuition by sending Barney and Friends down the road. Thanks Steve it was timely and appreciated.

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  15. Here is a question to all of you. Why are you refusing additional police services? True MSJC does not respond to 911 calls in Menifee, but if they are patrolling an "area" does it not make it safer?

    Maybe the dept. needs serious restructure not elimination. How many of you would be irritated if RSO was busy on a "routine" call and could not respond as timely? I say restructure and allow them to patrol the campus and surrounding area. If done correctly it benefits all who live in that part of Menifee.

    Maybe efforts to correct this should be redirected to the MSJC Board staff in San Jacinto. Hey the city of Menifee could lead that charge.

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  16. A restructure may not be a bad idea as the more police presence the better. But looking at the lawsuit website and now seeing whats going on, I do not want those officers patrolling my neighborhood. What that police chief has done is disgusting and he should not be in any power position within this city or any other.

    If the college cops are really costing the district one million dollars, it needs to closed. Students would be much better served with that money going to classes and buildings. How much is this lawsuit going to cost the college and really the local taxpayers like you and me? If there was one plaintiff I could see this lawsuit being retaliation. But with four plaintiffs there has to be somthing to this and its surely going to cost a lot of money even to defend it.

    I was in a car accident a few months ago and I could not find an attorney to take me as a client on a contingency. They wanted money up front, which I did not have, and I thought I had a good case. I would like to know if these former cops are paying their attorney or if the lawyer took the case with no upfront money. This would be a great indication of how strong a case they really have.

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  17. First of all, I agree. They shouldn't be there. They're a bunch of power hungry idiots who love to pull over anybody they can just for their own entertainment. Any of them I've dealt with, never resulting in any tickets - it was always a bullshit reason as to why me or any of my friends were pulled over - are pricks.

    However, last time I checked, they aren't just MSJC police. Most colleges who have actual police departments, are state cops. State cops have a specific jurisdiction - the entire state of California. Unlike a 'specified county' Sheriff's department, or 'specified city' police department, they can pull over/ticket anybody in the entire state, not just on/around campus.

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  18. POST certification is valid in all of CA. Jurisdiction is not what you think.

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  19. This is a STUPID thread while a legal filing is being pursued.

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  20. I am not sure how this is a STUPID thread. The citizens of Menifee should have a say in how their tax money is spent. This website has nothing to do with the lawsuit so bringing to light the fact the college is wasting a bunch of money is not STUPID.

    Thanks again Steve for keeping all of us informed, I was outraged when I read how my money is being spent.

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