Will They or Won't They Wal~Mart

So, unless you haven't received your mailer from Wal Mart yet announcing the proposed new location in Menifee, you already know that Wal...

So, unless you haven't received your mailer from Wal Mart yet announcing the proposed new location in Menifee, you already know that Wal Mart is encouranging you to encourange your City Council to approve the new store. Well, I ask you to think about a few things before you do this.
  1. According to the mailer, "$12.25 is the average wage for regular, full-time hourly associates in California." Wait! Read this carefully. Full-time hourly associates? Do you know how many full-time hourly associates Wal Mart generally employs? Very few. Most of their associates are part-time, nearly 80%. I think it important that we ask Wal Mart, before they come to our city, how many GUARANTEED full-time hourly associate positions they will be offering. Also, how many of those are for new hires? Most of those positions will be taken by current Wal Mart part-time associates who transfer to the new store. These are not jobs offered to Menifee new hires.
  2. Let's look at the statement made by the mailer again. "$12.25 is the average. . ." This is the average wage for Department Managers, not part-time or full-time entry level positions. Don't be fooled! Any new hire of Wal Mart, under normal circumstances, has to start at part-time and work their way up. Most, if not all, of the new positions created by the new store opening will be entry level, part-time, minimum wage postions. $8.00, part-time.
  3. "Both full and part-time associated eligible for healthcare coverage." At what cost? Many employess of Wal Mart cannot afford their healthcare coverage, as it is too expensive on their limited salaries.
  4. "73% of our store management team joined as hourly associates." In light of what you now know, this makes sense. To move up, you must start as an hourly associate. A part-time hourly associate!
  5. As a large retailer, Wal Mart offers goods and services at prices that local small businesses cannot compete with. When small business cannot flourish, this means your friends and neighbors cannot maintain their businesses, and eventually will close their business and move away. It has happened countless times in small cities across the nation, when Wal Mart has come to town! What does THAT do for the local economy?
  6. When Wal Mart opened it's store in Cathedral City, there were promises made to the city by Wal Mart about certain monies that the retailer would pay over the next few years to the city to help the local economy. When those monies were not paid, and the retailer wanted to expand their store to include a Super Center, the city declined their propostition. The retailer moved 1 mile down the road to Palm Springs, and opened their Super Center. The monies were never paid to Cathedral City and the building remains empty to this day.

I encourage you do to your own research, and to prompt our City Council to do theirs as well. Do not take for granted the propeganda that Wal Mart sends you! Ask hard questions at the Planning Commission hearing! How many FULL-TIME jobs, and at what rate of pay? How much DO healthcare benefits cost for a PART-TIME employee? What is the City of Menifee giving to Wal Mart for free? Land? The building? A tax break? How is this helping our city?

If you would like to see another side of Wal Mart, rent the video, "Wal Mart, the High Cost of Low Prices". It is available on Net Flix, if you have it. You will see the ugly side of Wal Mart, as you have never seen before. Talk to any Wal Mart associate, and they will tell you more.

Think twice Menifee, before we welcome Wal Mart with open arms.

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  1. Sorry but I welcome them with open arms.

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  2. Since our Govt. is far from creating any private sector jobs, I also welcome the store. This will produce Construction jobs, city permit fees, and tax revenue. I currently drive to Hemet to shop for groceries at their Walmart store. Menifee loosing all the new home construction revenue, this will be a long term source of funds.

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  3. As a whole I have never been a fan of Walmart. I do not like their image nor do I like the way they use their employees. Lets face it we could all use some low prices these days but these stores attract customers that I don't want hanging around my city. Are they going to be open 24-7? Are they going to allow people to camp over night in the parking lot? I want Walmart in Menifee as much as I would want a strip club, casino or any other seedy business.

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  4. Regarding the above comment that Wal-Mart attracts customers we don't want hanging around our city, let's understand that Wal-Marts exist in Murrieta, Lake Elsinore, Perris, Hemet, and Temecula. So, adding another Wal-Mart to Menifee is not going to attract more customers here.

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  5. I'm super excited for Walmart to open. We are fortunate to get any sort of job creation around here. Plus Walmart prices RULE!

    Welcome Walmart! We Menifee Loves You!

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  6. As long as they get the roadway improved beforehand, they can go for it. If you don't like it, you can boycott it.

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  7. People seem to forget that the Walmart would open up on Scott Road. If you look at the plans, Walmart will assist in the expanding of the road, BUT, as of now there are no plans nor dates as to when the roads would be adapted. What that means is that the store will be built long before the roads can handle the increased traffic. If you think Scott is bad now, just wait.

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  8. Thw Walmart's in LE, Hemet, and Perris are all scummy and low class. The Walmart's In Murietta and Temecula are kept away from the populations and in business areas. The Walmart on Scott would be extremely close to residential neighborhoods. If you don't live there, there is probably not an issue for you. If you live in the near vicinity, the Walmart will negatively affect your housing prices, if and when they ever go up.

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  9. Why another Walmart? Why not a movie complex or a cool bowling alley? I'm tired of going to Cal Oaks to league bowl. That would provide our Menifee residents jobs and tax revenue. Besides I would love to have a movie theatre here close to the Market Place shopping center. Just my 2 cents.

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  10. You guys crack me up. defining the lake elsinore walmart and perris walmart as the low life scum areas and then the murrieta and temecula as the higher end areas.....funny! Anyways... i agree with the last comment, my husband and I have ALWAYS said a movie complex, bowling alley and a good book store like Barnes and Noble would be perfect in the field across from Target. It would keep the young kids busy and out of trouble.... maybe??

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  11. Walmart recently spent millions of dollars in litigation just so didn't have to pay minimal fines for breaking the law. They think the rules do not apply to them. I used to work in workers compensation and met some of their employees in that situation. They treat their long time, loyal employees like liars, thieves and scum. It is true, wages and hours are low, respect and moral is low. Convenience of a close store with lower prices is nice but the detriment is too high. Yes, traffic, crime, being too close to residences, it's not worth it.
    Menifee Resident

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  12. I have worked for Wal Mart and they were the worst employer I ever had in my life. Not only do they belittle their employees, the stores and pathetically low prices will attract crime. Crime rates within the surrounding areas where they build it will increase dramatically.
    Keep the Wal Mart in Murrieta and if you really want to shop there, then take a 5 minute drive down the 215. Keep our city Wal Mart Free! We do not want it!

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  13. A bowling alley, book store, etc. will do nothing to keep young kids busy and out of trouble, period.
    By the way, if you haven't heard, Barnes and Noble is up for sale and will probably be closing soon.

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  14. Every Walmart I've ever been to is disgusting, including the one in Murrieta (haven't been to the Temecula one). They are dirty, badly kept and attract people I don't really want to be around...especially late at night. I would love the jobs Walmart would provide but wish it were another business going in there. Plus like someone else mentioned, the traffic there is going to be horrendous.

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  15. This is a joke! Walmart is Walmart! Seriously people, I see trash coming to Menifee. Has anyone ever been to a Walmart where they saw otherwise? Really they send this flyer which is a lie! Do your research on the business practices of Walmart. There is even a movie made about them! You can rent it on Netflix, it's called WALMART THE HIGH COST OF LOW PRICES! For all you Walmart lovers, keep on supporting China and the lead based products they distribute to Walmart! Low prices, I would rather pay more and shop at Target where they practice good ethics! You're not saving any money shopping at Walmart! MOVIE THEATER ALL THE WAY!

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  16. Yeah! more white trash = )

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  17. Reading all of your comment's and looking into this Wal-Mart in Menifee has opened my eyes to the possible problems that could happen. I was at first all for it, but now I would disagree in building another store that is not needed.
    Look at what we already have around us and what another Wal-Mart would do to the local economy. It would help but also hurt. Look at the menifee shopping area which already has congestion that takes 15-30 minutes to cross the 215 just to get to the stores. So a 5 minute ride to the store usually takes about 30-40 minutes instead of 5 minutes. Also in the Ralphs supermarket area lies an old Target store that is still empty since they built a new super Target one across the freeway and also there is another super Target on Clinton Kieth road. Just think what could happen in the Albertson's area. Also the 215 is already congested as is from people who don"t know how to drive or do the Zipper effect in letting traffic in to make a smooth transition and that area is backed up from just a little after Clinton Kieth road to past the Murietta Hot springs and if they built one on Scott road then traffic would be from Scott road all the way past Murietta Hot Springs. NO THANK YOU on that Idea. It already takes me an hour to drive from San Diego to my home in Menifee and to add another possible hour. Wal-Mart no Thank You on the idea of another store. I say NO.....
    Menifee Home Owner.

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  18. I LOVE the Super Target that opened, and I am always at the Countryside Marketplace. It feels good to spend money in Menifee and know that it is helping our new city. I would welcome a Walmart too. Let's aim for that movie theater while we are at it! Menifee is a wonderful place to live and I think the new shops and restaurants have been fantastic.

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  19. I welcome Walmart with open arms!!

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  20. We like Walmart too and would welcome one here....my nephew and his wife work for Walmart and have been able to buy their first home, and get health insurance....I agree the one in Perris is old and rather dirty but Hemet's is fine as is Murrieta's. They also hire older people which is wonderful for our seniors...its hard to find a job when you're over 60 and need work.

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  21. NO WAL MART's in Menifee. We need wider bridges at Scott Rd. and Newport Rd. We need another bridge between those to ease the congestion. A bridge at Holland Rd. would be nice.

    Do you people have any idea the junk they carry and the lack of quality. Just look at the following link on the meat recalled at Wal Mart this week. This is not the first time either. http://www.thestreet.com/story/10843468/1/wal-mart-recalls-deli-sandwiches.html?puc=_tscrss

    You people need to do your homework of pro's/con's before just saying yes to something that our community does not need or want.

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  22. I used to live by the Wal-Mart in Hemet. As soon as my wife and I could afford our new home we knew we wanted to live in Menifee, we felt is was a much better place to start a family. We would frequently shop at Hemet Wal-mart and we would frequently see fights in the parking lot, kids loitering by the front entrance, and all kind of scary things that we just dont want any part of. The store even had an undercover security team that looked like it was made up of ex convicts. Im not trying to sound like an elitist but we moved to Menifee because of the beautiful family atmosphere and it is up to us to keep it that way. Every city will have its sore spots but lets work to clean them up not welcome new ones.

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  23. Wal-mart bring it on, build it and they will come!!!

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  24. Why do we need to have a Wal-mart when we have a Super Target. It seems like the cons out-way the pros. Movie theater, restaurants, bowling alley and some more local businesses sound more like the right answer. We just don't need this giant to come in and step all over our community, they don't need us and we shouldn't want them.

    P.S. Anonymous is never a good option if you want quality comments.

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  25. WE DON'T NEED A TRASHY WALMART!! It will create more traffic that Scott Road cannot handle and it will bring more of a Perris environment into our city. NO! If Menifee knows what is best for our community, don't do it!

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  26. Anyone know what is coming in to the old Target in the Ralph's shopping center.

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  27. The "Perris environment" is already in Menifee

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  28. I don't think so Benny.

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  29. Having a family member with 20 years of employment at Walmart in an upper management position, I have come to hear it all.

    They are able to keep their pricing low due to the lower wages of the entry level associates. When Walmart opens a new location, many of the positions created are that of part time associates, cashiers, cart pushers and greeters, etc. Most positions of department manager and higher are filled from other locations by associates looking to be promoted, gain additional hours or work closer to home. If you are a seasoned retail manager looking for work, you are better off applying at a different location other than your local store.
    The information printed on the postcards sent is not exactly accurate. Out of the 3900 locations in North America and Puerto Rico, they are simply an average of what is taking place at Walmart today.

    As far as construction of a Walmart creating new jobs: Many of the contractors selected are already under contract from the other Walmart build outs. Most are not local to the city or community in which the store is being built. Some local sub contractors may be used, but many are again used from other areas.

    Walmart is moving away from the typical “Super Center” trend by building smaller locations. When Walmart announces to a city its intentions, the local grocers protest and express their concerns to city government. Walmart can operate under the radar by opening a regular looking store with an expanded frozen food department, deli and bakery counter service. This trend can already be seen in most San Diego locations as well as Redlands and Colton. Without the “Super Center” moniker on the building, Walmart experiences less opposition. Many will say the new look of the remodeled stores is appealing. They can thank CEO Mike Duke and his management team, some of which came from Target Corp.

    On the subject of tax revenue: Is Menifee economically ready or large enough to support another mass merchant? If Walmart puts the hurt on Target’s sales as well as other local business, then the revenue from the sales tax from those businesses will be considerably less, making it a wash. Keep in mind that Best Buy, Michaels, Sports Chalet and many other Menifee Mark