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by Steve
1/09/2008 07:55:00 PM
Hmm sounds like we have alot of bickering going on- let's get back to providing a safe neighborhood for kids. If you think it isn't a problem let me tell you what happened last night.If anyone is victimized by a crime, here are the phone numbers to report...
My 24 year old son was walking to work at about 8 PM last night (please don't need any comments about why walking at 8 pm at night- we should be able to do this anytime) and he was robbed by 3 hispanic males ranging from 17-24 (again no one is stereotyping so please no discussion about this). Do you still think there is no problem?
One of them had a knife and he was surrounded since they jumped out of the bushes. It was the street right before the one that La Ladera Park is on ( the one that goes to the elementary school ). I also drove by the park today at about 3 pm and there were a group of males easily over 18 all of them with the clothes and bandanas .They also stared at me like I was invading there space.
I grew up in Tracy California where there was activity like this but much worse. I remember having to have about 5 friends to accompany you to class because gangs would pick on you if you only had 1 or 2. They would travel in gangs of 10 or more and harass people all the time- that is only if these gangs (cowards) seen you had 1 or 2. They wouldn't bother you unless they had an overwhelming odds-again cowards.
I won't let this happen to my kids. If you care about the community and ensuring these people don't invade our community then please respond.If you have negative comments or criticisms please keep them to yourself only positive ones that will help. Thanks.
Labels: Gangs, La-Ladera-Park, Menifee-Hills
this is so disturbing to hear...we moved out of Vista for the same reason...many gangs and trouble there...fights at the high school, drugs, etc....
I think a lot of the families who moved into this area moved here for the same reasons...to have a good safe place to raise children..
we need to nip this in the bud before it becomes worse...what can we do?
By 
Daniv, at January 09, 2008 8:19 PM
What can we do? Get active. Take control of your neighborhood. Start a Neighborhood watch program. Call the Sheriff they are more than happy to help out. The key to this is neighbor participation. No participation, no safety. We do it in our neighborhood and it works. We have regular patrols by the Sheriff and the only real problem is taggers. Those damn roaches come out late at night and slip under that radar. We have caught a couple in the act.
By Nunyo, at January 09, 2008 8:37 PM
nunyo, please tell us how you get the sheriff to help out. we also have neighborhood watch and although the sheriff did show up to our meetings, when we call to report any type of crime, they never show up--or they show up an hour later. we had underage teen drinking here, the same group of teens set one of the neighbor's patio furniture on fire--the sheriff caught the kids drinking and told us all they were all let go and told to go home. the neighbor sued the family of the teen arsonist but the sheriff really never did anything about the kids. we had adult witnesses to all of these things but nothing is ever done for us by the sheriff. i came upon taggers one time, gave full descriptions of the taggers, including shirt and pant colors and descriptions of all four of them and the sheriff did locate them--but then let them go. when we asked why, he said i had given conflicting information. ??? i've lived here for almost three years now and i don't see the sheriff doing much of anything at all to help us out. we live on the east side of the 215. what is the sheriff's name who is helping your neighborhood? thank you.
By 
, at January 09, 2008 10:36 PM
Increased law enforcement is probably the biggest reason why the cityhood incorporation effort has gotten off the ground (that and fears of annexation by nearby cities).
There's a lot of tax revenue generated here in the Menifee Valley that the County spends on other communities. We need to form our own city and spend it on our own police department.
By Steve, at January 10, 2008 12:29 AM
This is not good news. I have seen alot more guys walking around with there sagging pants and bandanas also. I don't like it at all. It really brings down the neigborhood. As for the Sheriff they never come when you call them. I will help in any way??
By , at January 10, 2008 7:21 AM
I agree with Steve, we need our own police department. The Sheriff only allocates (1) Deputy for more than 40 square miles (including Menifee). That's why you almost never see a Deputy, and that is why you get such a slow response time. I love the Sheriffs' Department, don't get me wrong, but they don't provide enough people for Menifee.
By , at January 10, 2008 8:23 AM
If you see trouble makers congregating, confront them with your neighbors telling them the neighborhood will not stand for any criminal activity, and that they will be watched 24/7 by the community.
They prey on people who are intimidated by them, so don't fear them!
By , at January 10, 2008 8:35 AM
I talked with my boys who are older teens and they know about these guys...through the grapevine not personally...this gang of boys has been preying on individuals..four of my boys friends have been attacked, robbed and beaten...
my boys say this group all live in Quail Valley...
We have a lot of police cars patroling in our neighborhood...and I feel safe here but my one son has friends by La Ladera park so when he is over there, I get nervous..
By Daniv, at January 10, 2008 8:54 AM
all,
thanks for the positive info. I am ready to join a neighborhood watch or start one-anyone know who I should contact?
Also, I just found out that my son's best friends house just about burned down- it is located just off park in Sun City (rustlers ranch). They didn't have any insurance and the mother is 8 months pregnant.I know this sounds like Jeryy Springer, but it is true and this family needs help immediately.I am checking with my resources at work and friends, but they need big help like church or other community members.This is one of our own who needs help.Please assist me in helping these folks out.
By , at January 10, 2008 8:57 AM
Please, Please, DON NOT FEAR THEM. Do not confront them either. What I mean is walk your dogs, go to the park, show them that they cannot take it over. I will tell you that I am from San Diego and one of the worst gans there is the "Market Street" gang. I was amazed to find that they had sketched into the cement thier gand signs. Hmm, all the way from San Diego. I can bet our gang task force in Riverside doesn't even know about that. I found a knife at the corner of the park the night after the last gang fight at La Ladera park. I called the police, who did come out and retrieve it.
Also, we have a deputy who lives within sight of the park....why can't he do anything. His house sits and looks right at the park???? He has kids, if we can't get him involved that is sad.
Again, do not fear them. Use the park and call if you see suspicious behavior.
It is a game to them. The problem is that knives are now involved.
There is strength in numbers.
By , at January 10, 2008 10:09 AM
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By , at January 10, 2008 12:02 PM
For "Keifer" RE starting a Neighborhood Watch: The Sheriff's Ofc has great packettts showing how to start and conduct a watch program. They are also very receptive to coming out and addressing a program if you can get a few interested neighbors together. Our Sheriff's office recognizes these 'watch programs' as being very helpful. Please contact them.
By , at January 10, 2008 1:32 PM
I just spoke to an officer from the gang unit and they are going to go by the park for the next few nights. If anyone sees graffiti please call the Perris station.
They were very interested in the fact that a San Diego gang has tagged at the park.
By , at January 10, 2008 3:42 PM
An anonymous poster asked how we got the sheriff to help with the neighborhood watch. It's part squeaky wheel and having a good block captain. It takes a lot of participation and someone willing to follow through and make it happen. For a good group of people who are willing to give up time. What you put into something is what you get out of it. This just doesn't happen by pure magic, it's hard work. We also have block parties to coincide with meetings in the summer time. This way you can get to know your neighbors. Not everyone is into this so there won't be 100 percent participation.
By Nunyo, at January 11, 2008 11:22 AM
Why do we have to wait until something bad happens. The sherrifs' office should be notified about the lottering. Let these fools that migrate from L.A. Perris, Moreno valley, etc. etc. know that we are not going to put up with thier existance.
By , at January 11, 2008 9:33 PM
I am absolutely apalled by this activity. It is quite disturbing.. I live in the Newport Hills II community and often see some unpleasant looking characters at La Ladera Park.
It is true we can't depend on the Sheriff's Department. I accidnetally set off my house alarm one time and it took the Sheriff's Department over three hours to respond. I turned the alarm off immediately, but the fact they came was great-- the time was unsatisfactory. An entire house and it's contents can be removed in that amount of time.
It certainly will be a benefit to have cityhood and our own Police Department. I agree, the tax base in Menifee is enormous, with my taxes at $7300 a year, I certainly would hope to have a response time quite a bit shorter. There is no excuse for this!
We as a neighborhood need to demand more of our Sheriff's Department.
By , at January 12, 2008 12:18 AM
I suggest a critical exploration of "the gang" in general. Perhaps start with a reflexive criticism of ourselves as a consumer society and the type of disillusionment that that can create, especially amongst youth who consume certain images (i.e. of "the gangster"), but also regarding the images and opportunities that are simultaneously produced yet denied to certain demographics.
"Getting active" shouldn't preclude a critical consideration of the actions taken.
By , at March 19, 2008 2:52 PM
Look i live out here too so it does concern me that much gang activty exist. Its the whole domination thing. The problem with the whole thing is that because some of these Gang members may be of the Hispanic Race that makes guys like myself who are of 35 years of age hispanic good citizen of the town more prone to stops from police for no reasons other then you look suspcious. You drive a lowered honda that kindof of discrimantion.Sorry but the gangs are a commmunity problem for us to solve them not the police, the goverment or other Federal Instituions. Do you think that the Big boys of the world care much about the gang problems no? No? of course they dont. It survival of the fittest out there and its there hope that we all terminate each other. Thats the sad truth. Gangs are an indicator of wider Social problems. Why dont we op for a program that gives young people an outlet to help them thru the gang fever. Teach them about how to take care of our communitys and our sorrounding native habitats. Make them feel empowered over their domain. Yeah that would be great would it not. But no most people want to imprison them like thats the only solution. Prison does not stop crime have you noticed overcrowding of prisons. Just somthing to think about.
By , at March 19, 2008 4:00 PM
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