tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post6609561353076258495..comments2024-03-08T13:49:02.231-08:00Comments on Menifee 24/7: Phoeba Irey, MUSD Candidate StatementAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04404091189792961642noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-48127734452044048812008-10-15T13:16:00.000-07:002008-10-15T13:16:00.000-07:00Single track is what I grew up in and it allowed o...Single track is what I grew up in and it allowed our family to have more unity. I am for single track all the way!Tonal Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198001091701514327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-48293186627086200512008-08-24T00:17:00.000-07:002008-08-24T00:17:00.000-07:00Being off in early June is nice, cooler weather an...Being off in early June is nice, cooler weather and less crowds for vacation places. <BR/><BR/>I would like 2 weeks in spring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-38822519504991722702008-08-23T14:13:00.000-07:002008-08-23T14:13:00.000-07:00I am all for single track and against "multi" trac...I am all for single track and against "multi" track, but would not mind the 3 on 1 off schedule if everyone was on that same schedule at the same time. Modified traditional is a fair compromise. There are still the breaks here and there, just not a whole month at a time. I really like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-53603646798841649602008-08-23T10:23:00.000-07:002008-08-23T10:23:00.000-07:00Single track: Only one calendar per year.Multitra...Single track: Only one calendar per year.<BR/><BR/>Multitrack: Four overlapping calendars.<BR/><BR/>Traditional: Start Labor Day end Memorial Day, two weeks at christmas and one in spring, longest possible summer.<BR/><BR/>3 on 1 off: 3 months in school one month off track<BR/><BR/>Modified Traditional: An attempt to move toward the advantages of 3 on 1 off while still keeping in line with the high school athletics program.<BR/><BR/>Clarification: People that say they like multi track actually mean they like 3 on 1 off not 4 overlapping calendars. <BR/><BR/>Hope this helps .... Keep up the good work PHoebaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-1090081233445345152008-08-22T07:27:00.001-07:002008-08-22T07:27:00.001-07:00Most of you who didn't want single track will prob...Most of you who didn't want single track will probably be thankful when your oldest enters HS and all your kids are still on the same schedule...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-69938036613635897902008-08-22T07:27:00.000-07:002008-08-22T07:27:00.000-07:00Most of you who didn't want single track will prob...Most of you who didn't want single track will probably be thankful when your oldest enters HS and all your kids are still on the same schedule...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-61691723317845451132008-08-21T09:07:00.000-07:002008-08-21T09:07:00.000-07:00Phoebe, you seem to be a rational no-nonsense boar...Phoebe, you seem to be a rational no-nonsense board member. You have my vote...Old School Rules! Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-1678058730414297592008-08-20T17:34:00.000-07:002008-08-20T17:34:00.000-07:00Yes, the middle school is being funded partially b...Yes, the middle school is being funded partially by Measure B. The school was already planned as we needed it badly. If Measure B hadn't passed, we would have had to scrape the barrel for funding. We really weren't sure where or how we were going to do it. Thankfully Measure B passed. We have sold some of the bonds, but voted to wait on others until nearer time to start building the new elementary schools. We didn't want the tax payers to be funding the new schools before we need them. It is so good to know we will be able to build when they are needed. Phoeba IreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-77530594047650009512008-08-20T14:48:00.000-07:002008-08-20T14:48:00.000-07:00Phoebe,Is the new middle school that is currently ...Phoebe,<BR/><BR/>Is the new middle school that is currently being built, being funded with Measure B funds?<BR/><BR/>I thought the bids for this went out before Measure B passed.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-86851518173423689752008-08-19T21:05:00.000-07:002008-08-19T21:05:00.000-07:00Thanks to all who have taken time to add comments....Thanks to all who have taken time to add comments. I'd like to add a few words about the process of going to a single track. I have taught in schools with a single track and with multiple tracks. Many things concerned me about the multiple track. One of the main concerns was with students who transfered into a multiple track district. Often they did not come September. When the schools were full, they were placed on Track D which was off until October. Those students missed three or four months of school that year. I will never forget one student who missed an entire year because no one seemed to catch on that he wasn't just off track. My list could go on and on. <BR/>Let me assure you that the board did seriously consider the results of the survey. We could not send out the survey until we had plans for enough schools to house the students if that was the choice of the community. If the survey had shown that the interest was not there, we would not have voted for a single track. <BR/>Thanks to those who are voting for me. I try to do my best. <BR/>Phoeba IreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-59720307527718908192008-08-19T19:08:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:08:00.000-07:00I agree. I have been to several school functions ...I agree. I have been to several school functions and they usually point out attending board members and she has been to all of them that I went to. She has my vote too. And I'm looking forward to going single track.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-9951513983112281222008-08-19T19:00:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:00:00.000-07:00By the way, I think Mrs. Irey has done a great job...By the way, I think Mrs. Irey has done a great job representing the community as a member of the Board. She is involved in the schools and attends many of their daytime as well as evening functions. She listens to people and responds promptly if you email her. She is a good person and a good board member, She has my vote -- solid YES!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-23381643025935252072008-08-19T18:56:00.000-07:002008-08-19T18:56:00.000-07:00The modified-traditional calendar that was voted o...The modified-traditional calendar that was voted on is the same as the 09-10 calendar for Paloma Valley HS. You can see that on their website. I haven't been able to find it on the Menifee website yet. It begins in mid-August, 1 week off for Thanksgiving, 3 weeks off for Christmas, a week for spring break and school ends the 2nd week of June (and a few other traditional holidays throughout the year).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-76132892672744420912008-08-19T16:52:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:52:00.000-07:00I think they voted to approve the official calenda...I think they voted to approve the official calendar for 09/10 at the last board meeting...anyone know where to find a glimpse of that approved calendar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-20875218393669373392008-08-19T13:50:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:50:00.000-07:00That's not what I'm saying. The Board didn't use ...That's not what I'm saying. The Board didn't use the survey to guide their vote. It was just something they did to make sure they felt good about voting for it, perhaps more as a way to cross their T's and dot their I's. <BR/><BR/>Think about why the Board put Measure B on the ballot over a year ago. When the trustees voted to put Measure B on the ballot, they explained to parents that if they wanted a traditional year, they had to support Measure B. So with Measure B passing, the trustees had to make good on their promise to deliver the traditional year. (<A HREF="http://www.menifee247.com/2007/07/new-menifee-school-bond-measure.htm" REL="nofollow">read here</A>).<BR/><BR/>Also go back to the school boundary meetings of last January. By that time, the district had already made decisions to change the school boundaries, but hadn't decided what boundaries to adopt. They explained that these new boundaries would help them implement the traditional year down the road. Why would the trustees vote adopt new school boundaries if their minds weren't made up on moving to a traditional year?<BR/><BR/>Go back to a comment that Fred Twyman made here on Menifee 247...<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.menifee247.com/2008/01/school-boundary-meeting-oak-meadows.htm#c1149645046872722711" REL="nofollow">http://www.menifee247.com/2008/01/ school-boundary-meeting-oak-meadows.htm#c1149645046872722711</A><BR/><BR/>He said he ran for school board under the impression that the community wanted a single track year. Changing the district to a single track was his goal going back to 2004.<BR/><BR/>Also, Tywman, Irey, and Dale Shiffler, were part of a three-person slate (or three-man tag team if you will), all running for school board in 2004, with the common goal of unification (<A HREF="http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/10/21/election2004/californian/22_14_4410_20_04.txt" REL="nofollow">read here</A>). Shiffler didn't get elected. Being on the same slate, I'm sure Irey also shared Twyman's goal for moving to a traditional year.<BR/><BR/>Moreover, how does unification relate to traditional year? As it turns out, when the Board voted last month to adopt the traditional year, they also voted to adopt the same schedule as Paloma Valley High. I think the effort to implement a traditional year is a by-product of unification, or something that makes unification more justifiable.<BR/><BR/>The decision to adopt a traditional school year was made a long time ago, and not something based on the survey. A lot of work was done, and money spent, in the past year, or maybe two, just to bring us to the trustees' vote last month. Would the trustees have voted against the traditional year, after all that? I don't think so.Steve Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07254867681706917705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-5170594092973748862008-08-19T12:31:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:31:00.000-07:00Steve,Are you saying:If the surveys would have com...Steve,<BR/><BR/>Are you saying:<BR/>If the surveys would have come back in favor of year round, the board would have still voted to move to single track?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-60790449606786005612008-08-19T12:29:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:29:00.000-07:00To poster--August 19, 2008 10:41 AM--You're right ...To poster--August 19, 2008 10:41 AM--You're right those reasons are dumb! I wanted "year round" schooling because I think that the 3 on and 1 off system helps the kids retain more throughout the year. Children are bored anytime they don't have a schedule, not just during the summer months. The parents that made those comments are lazy perhaps. My kids drive me crazy all the time! It doesn't matter if they are off for one month or 3! (that was a joke people!) I did want to stay on the multi track. Going on vacations, and visiting amusement parks is much easier and less crowded when you have your kids off when the traditional kids are in school. Plus you get a month off in different seasons. I thought it was a great system. However, I understand many parents frustrations about having their kids in different schools and on different schedules. I'm happy for them...but still sad for me! Oh well, it is what it is. As far as the "surveys" go...I'm with the other posters. I agree, I think it could have been handled better.ChattyCathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02175929231937123237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-29972899555116177682008-08-19T12:26:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:26:00.000-07:00Studies have shown that year round school increase...Studies have shown that year round school increases learning retention. It also better utilizes facilities which the State rewards in priorty points for new facilities. If you want a better educational outcome at less cost, this is a good thing. If you dislike the personal inconvience and are unconcerned about the expense to taxpayers it's a bad thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-7988532394230129872008-08-19T12:23:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:23:00.000-07:00The survey was not a vote, just a survey. The tru...The survey was not a vote, just a survey. The trustees used the survey to make sure they felt good about casting their own votes.<BR/><BR/>The decision to move to a traditional calendar was made over a year ago when the District laid out plans to put <A HREF="http://www.menifee247.com/2007/07/new-menifee-school-bond-measure.htm" REL="nofollow">Measure B</A> on the ballot to fund the construction of three new schools. Those three schools were necessary to offset the overcrowding a traditional calendar would create.<BR/><BR/>The official vote the Board made last month on moving to a traditional calendar was simply a formality in finalizing a long process that was decided upon a long time ago.Steve Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07254867681706917705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-34890912620172164392008-08-19T10:41:00.000-07:002008-08-19T10:41:00.000-07:00Can I ask why some of wanted year round school? T...Can I ask why some of wanted year round school? The reasons I've heard for year round school so far are dumb. I've heard parents say that they didn't want to deal with their "bored children" or "they'll drive me crazy". Now are those good reasons?? I for one love hanging out with my kids, see you at the beach people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-52909206138484279942008-08-19T10:34:00.000-07:002008-08-19T10:34:00.000-07:00Yes, the district classified it as a “survey”. The...Yes, the district classified it as a “survey”. The board made it sound like the “survey” was being used as THE basis for its decision on whether or not to move to single track. So the “survey” was actually a vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-75899170143168975262008-08-19T10:26:00.000-07:002008-08-19T10:26:00.000-07:00This was not a vote, it was a survey. The school ...This was not a vote, it was a survey. The school board wanted some basic feedback. The fact is that most families wanted single track (not me), but that really didn't matter because the board could do whatever they wanted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-772640448687704782008-08-19T09:50:00.000-07:002008-08-19T09:50:00.000-07:00OK, I'll give you that - the surveys I saw being t...OK, I'll give you that - the surveys I saw being turned in were not in envelopes - they were just out there for anyone to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-68840742207468448762008-08-19T09:23:00.000-07:002008-08-19T09:23:00.000-07:00THANK YOU to anonymous August 19, 2008 8:35 AM! VE...THANK YOU to anonymous August 19, 2008 8:35 AM! VERY GOOD POINT!!! I appreciate your understanding.<BR><BR/><BR>--To the posters that called me a selfish whiner--I was trying to just state my opinion and what I witnessed using a little humor. Obviously you 2 are a bit too serious. I'm not complaining, I understand what's done is done. Of course I would have liked it to go my way, who doesn't?! That doesn't make me selfish. Like the other parents that voted for keeping the multi track I'm sure, I am not the only one that was disappointed.<BR><BR/><BR>Regardless of the outcome of the surveys...my way, your way or whatever, it should have been handled differently to make sure people's privacy was respected. And to leave no doubts in people's minds on the outcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5181366.post-87365461739107224132008-08-19T09:21:00.000-07:002008-08-19T09:21:00.000-07:00Thank You Phoeba for helping us get single track! ...Thank You Phoeba for helping us get single track! You have helped make things easier for so many families.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com